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From: Jun 18, 1997 |
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Date: Mon, Jun 30, 1997 at 17:48:15 (EDT)
Poster: JW Email: To: Everyone Subject: I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP Message: Now listen,I am being honest here. I am not making this stuff up. Here is another quote from the Perfect Master of our time in that book of poetry he wrote. It's the one with all the blank space and all the pictures of clouds in it. Warning: don't eat before reading this, vomiting may ensue. Here goes: "I have never been betrayed by the part of me that dances, but the part that cries sometimes calls for my attention, even when I find no reason." [The parallel drawn between being "betrayed" by the part that dances and getting "calls" from the part that cries is not explained. But I concur that he is often unable to find any "reason." Maybe that is why part of him cries. But, continuing on and bordered by gray clouds, Maharaj Ji says:]
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Date: Tues, Jul 1, 1997 at 16:38:27 (EDT)
Poster: Jim Email: To: JW Subject: Re: I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP Message: JW, Thank you for demonstrating how much of a poopoo head Maharaji is. But who can we share this with? The world sees it as too obvious and the other premies -- the ones we really want to get because we just can't stomach the idea of Maharaji getting away with this idiocy -- don't see it. I was at a wedding last week with a premie from 1971. Phil Bowlesby, if you must know. Quiet, easy-going, nicest guy in the world. He said he was going to San Francisco this weekend to see 'his spiritual master.' We started talking. He told me nothing could change his mind, it's Maharaji forever. I asked him how he'd react if Maharaji admitted he was fake. Wouldn't matter. I reminded him how proud we all were of being 'seekers of truth' so long ago. He got my point. Still didn't matter. 'Jim, I've been doing this for 25 years!' Good point, I guess. I reminded him of some of the premie casualties we both knew. I told him about my friend, Dave Wiener, who hung himself when he started doubting Maharaji was God and blamed his evil mind -- blamed it to death. He said that was Dave's fault. I got pissed off. 'What if a doctor told your friend he was going to die in a month from cancer and your friend killed himself AND the doctor turned out being not only wrong but not even a doctor? What if it was all a scam? What responsibility would he have for your friend's death?' 'None' said Bowlesby. He smiled and I
smiled back. I realized I needed help. Maybe Maharaji should
sell little pocket electronic translators: Premiespeak to
English and vice versa.
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Date: Tues, Jul 1, 1997 at 17:11:33 (EDT)
Poster: JW Email: To: Jim Subject: Re: I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP Message: Jim, I'm not so sure that ALL the premies out there "don't see it." I think many of them, deep down, know Maharaj Ji is a fraud, but they have invested so much of their lives into him (some the majority of their adult lives like your friend at the wedding) that they will fight like the devil not to admit that to anyone else. But, for many premies, I believe these things nevertheless, sink in there somewhere and it may come to the surface later.
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Date: Tues, Jul 1, 1997 at 19:31:21 (EDT)
Poster: Jim Email: To: JW Subject: Re: I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP Message: JW, you're right. No argument. But isn't it fun to pretend these guys think and talk just like people? Back To Index -:- Top of Index |
Date: Thurs, Jul 3, 1997 at 18:08:57 (EDT)
Poster: Mili Email: To: JW Subject: Re: I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP Message: Now listen,I am being honest here. I am not making this stuff up. Here is another quote from the Perfect Master of our time in that book of poetry he wrote. It's the one with all the blank space and all the pictures of clouds in it. Warning: don't eat before reading this, vomiting may ensue. Here goes: 'I have never been betrayed by the part of me that dances, but the part that cries sometimes calls for my attention, even when I find no reason.' [The parallel drawn between being 'betrayed' by the part that dances and getting 'calls' from the part that cries is not explained. But I concur that he is often unable to find any 'reason.' Maybe that is why part of him cries. But, continuing on and bordered by gray clouds, Maharaj Ji says:]
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Date: Sat, Jun 28, 1997 at 14:11:54 (EDT)
Poster: URGENT:TO ALL PREMIES Email: To: Everyone Subject: SCOTT'S SECRET PLANS Message: We've Just been tipped off by a traitor with a conscience! Scott Perry and his heinous minions have been quietly planning to move their forum to a high-profile usenet site dedicated against Maharaji. This is their secret info page at http://miraclevision.com/maharaji/info.htm. Let's all do the decent thing and inform the usenet authorities of the libelous rantings they've been perpetrating for the last few months and see if we can put a stop to this nonsense once and for all! These creeps have been moaning on and on about openness and honesty! Now we see this hypocrisy for what it is! The game's up, you digusting liars. The Usenet Move Info Page ----------------------------------------------------------------- Choosing a New Newsgroup Name In Usenet ----------------------------------------------------------------- To visit the current forum, click on visit: Current Forum ----------------------------------------------------------------- - In case you might have been wondering about the future prospects for our forum, my plans are to move it over to the Usenet with our own unique Usenet group name, within the next month. - There are several advantages to this: Rather than depending solely upon any one single individual, the forum will then become a publicly supported endeavor. Archiving and cataloging will then be done by servers like DejaNews and ReferenceCom. These free archive services are quite popular and certainly more widely searched by the general public than my private URL. It looks likely that I will eventually be able to rewrite the web site for those who aren't into newsgroup servers so that it can display a DejaNews query to look essentially like what you see now, only reading the stuff off of the Usenet. Redone as such, the forum page would look essentially as it does now in its most recent incarnation, except that instead of looking in the top panel and seeing there the forum index of threaded entries, you would see in the same place the threaded results of a preset Deja News query that would look essentially the same. I will be able to take a break. For those who do have good news servers, it will still be possible to utilize the new forum interface with the conference status panel by simply resizing their news-server window to sit just above the conference room status panel while they are posting to the news group. - As always when change is involved, there will probably be some disadvantages to this: For those who access via Deja News or Reference Com, new postings will be delayed by up to 24 hours. For those who access via news servers, (usually packaged in with most internet account packages), the timelyness and thoroughness, (some messages may get lost occasionally), of their service will depend upon the quality of the news-server they use. - Regardless of the problems involved, I will be shutting down the forum service on my site within the month in any event, so consider the fact that having a place to meet on the Usenet is better than having no place at all. ----------------------------------------------------------------- The Need for Confidentiality - Due to the fact that any adverse posts over in the news.groups Usenet group can be very detrimental to the formation of a new newsgroup, please don't talk about this move over in the forum. Current premies like Chris or Mili could easily mount smear campaigns against this move. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Let's get the definitions straight.... - Just so you know what I'm talking about further on down, our new Usenet name will be comprised of three basic parts: the top level hierarchy, the prefix, and the suffix. It will look like this: top-hierarchy.prefix.suffix. Why the "alt.*" Top Level Hierarchy? - After doing a fair amount of research into just how to get us into the Usenet, this is what I came up with. It turns out that most aspiring new groups these days start out in the "alt.*" to level heirarchy. Trying to start out in any other hierarchy is not recommended. That settles that question. (By the way, appropriately enough alt supposedly stands for: "Anarchists, Lunatics, & Terrorists".) Now for the name after the "alt.*" part.... How Were These Five Name Choices Arrived At? - After discussions with others who have started newsgroups, with a member of the 'group-mentor' program over on the Usenet, and after several hours of research into the subject of newsgroup creation, the five newsgroup naming options I have listed below are what I consider to be the five best and most viable options we have for a group name. - I apologize if none of the five options may seem to meet with your complete satisfaction. If this may be your position, please simply vote for the selections that you find to be the 'least unsatisfactory' of the available selections. I hope you will bear with this process as it is the best that I can come up with with the limited amount of time and resources I have available to undertake this. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Choosing a Good Prefix - On the attached ballot there three possible prefix choices listed. Here are our two choices: 1.alt.cult.*: This would place us under an already existing prefix currently shared by only two other "pro-cult" groups. The "Rocky Horror Picture Show" (RHPS) cult freaks, and the Nudists. The main arguments in favor of this placement, to date are: a.) It's a simple name to remember, and b.) maybe having such wild neighbors would act to stir up more current premies to participate, and c.) maybe you have nudist or RHPS leanings, who knows? - The main arguments against it, to date are: a.) By choosing to place our group in a category now only inhabited by pro-cultist groups, could we be confusing the issues? b.) Why not start a new prefix for anti-cultists, especially considering the fact that there is no such place on the Usenet right now? c.) Perhaps some may not be comfortable with the use of the term 'cult' at all. 2.alt.cult-watch.*: This would create an all new prefix designed specifically for anti-cult group discussions. Currently there is no such top level gathering point for these types of discussions or newsgroups anywhere on the Usenet. The main argument in favor, (my argument), is: Why not start a precedent that other cult watchers might follow? Currently, anti-cult types of discussions on the Usenet are split between the alt.religion and alt.support prefixes. Neither of these places seem to me to be entirely appropriate. By creating a new top level prefix clearly dedicated to anti-cult discussions, former cultists from other cults might be more encouraged to create their own groups and to place them under this new top level prefix. This might serve to add to the strength and general momentum of the overall anti-cult debate on the Usenet. The main arguments against it so far are: a.) It is unecessarily long, b.) not spicy enough, and c.) Not comfortable with the term 'cult'. 3.alt.religion.*: This prefix would place us under another pre-existing hierarchy. We would have as neighbors here, the Methodists, the Scientologists, Krishna folks, etc.. The arguments so far for this name are: a.) It fits within an existing hierarchy, something that Usenet administrators like. b.) The choice of such a name shows clearly that we believe, contrary to M.'s claims, that M.'s teachings amount to a religion. To date, the main argument against it it is: a.) By mixing ourselves in with many mainstream religions, could we be muffling any anti-cult message some might wish to send. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Choosing A Good Suffix - Now for the suffix: The two choices that have been proposed here are: 1.*.maharaji and 2.*.maharaji-forum - The argument for "*.maharaji" is that it is simpler. - The argument for "*.maharaji-forum" is that it might provide a sort of "bridge of familiarity" for all of those who make the transition from the old forum to the Usenet. By using a similar name here, we might possibly be serving notice to anyone who might remember the old forum, that this is essentially the same group. ----------------------------------------------------------------- The voting process: - By clicking on the "Cast your vote" ballot link below, you can submit your vote for your naming preferences here. All votes will be tallied at the end of one week, ending June 28. Which ever name preferences recieve the highest number of votes will automatically be used for our new newsgroup name. In the event of any ties, in order to make the Usenet group name application process as streamlined as possible, the prefix or suffix that matches the suffix or prefix on the current application, (current prefix is cult-watch, current suffix is maharaji-forum) will be used. You might find it beneficial to check out the Mini-Forum below to see if anyone else has any good thoughts or imput worth considering before you cast your vote about this. - Once this process has been completed, I will again call upon you for your input and support one last time regarding this process. I will ask if you might be able to post 'support letters' over in the alt.config newsgroup in order to bolster our proposal. Over there, without at least three or four letters of support from different authors, many group proposals don't fly. ----------------------------------------------------------------- A "Mini Forum About the Usenet Move: - After plowing through all of this, and hopefully after filling out a ballot, just in case you might have any further comments or points you might want to discuss about all of this, I have also set up a temporary "Mini-Forum" in which to discuss the proposed move in a place removed from the prying eyes of the current premies. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Here Are the Links: To cast your vote, click on: Cast Your Vote. To review the votes, click on: Review Votes. To go to the Mini Forum About the Usenet Move, click on: Go to the Mini-Forum. Back To Index -:- Top of Index |
Date: Sat, Jun 28, 1997 at 16:31:27 (EDT)
Poster: Jim Email: To: URGENT:TO ALL PEMIES Subject: Re: SCOTT'S SECRET PLANS Message: Ah, what would I give for a traitor with a conscience! Who are you, Paul Revere, and why do you think it so important to stop people from talking about the Lord of the Universe? Are you jsut having trouble figuring out what title to vote for? Yeah, I know the feeling. Personally, I like alt.fat.ugly.slimy.fraud but it really is personal, isn't it? Back To Index -:- Top of Index |
Date: Sat, Jun 28, 1997 at 17:20:44 (EDT)
Poster: Brian Email: brian@worldnetoh.com To: Jim Subject: Re: SCOTT'S SECRET PLANS Message: As one of Scott's Minions, I like the usenet idea. The software at pergatory isn't cutting it. Miraclevision and t-bird are holding up okay, but pergatory sends if and when it feels like it. Speaking of which: SCOTT! DO
YOU EVEN READ THESE POSTS? The problem is persisting. Some index
loads drop as low as 33 bytes/sec! Hello??? Send me email if
you're there.
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Date: Sun, Jun 29, 1997 at 01:10:18 (EDT)
Poster: URGENT:TO ALL PREMIES Email: SwordofTruth@WhiteHouse.net.us To: Jim Subject: Re: SCOTT'S SECRET PLANS Message: Ah, what would I give for a traitor with a conscience! Who are you, Paul Revere, and why do you think it so important to stop people from talking about the Lord of the Universe? Are you jsut having trouble figuring out what title to vote for? Yeah, I know the feeling. Personally, I like alt.fat.ugly.slimy.fraud but it really is personal, isn't it? Paul Revere? How dare you sir! You labor in vain! Unlike you, I cannot tell a lie. My name is George Washingtion. As for the usenet name, how about alt.pathetic.bongos? Back To Index -:- Top of Index |
Date: Sun, Jun 29, 1997 at 09:01:22 (EDT)
Poster: Anon Email: To: YOU SIR ARE AN IDIOT Subject: Re: SCOTT'S SECRET PLANS Message: We've Just been tipped off by a traitor with a conscience! Scott Perry and his heinous minions have
been quietly planning to move their forum to a high-profile
usenet site dedicated against Maharaji.
These creeps have been moaning on
and on about openness and honesty! Now we see this hypocrisy for
what it is! The game's up, you digusting liars.
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Date: Sun, Jun 29, 1997 at 16:42:35 (EDT)
Poster: Chris Email: To: Anon Subject: Re: SCOTT'S SECRET PLANS Message: Anon, My name was
mentioned as one person who might possibly sabotage Scott's
efforts.
And why should
Maharaji want to sabotage it?
When
Scott first posted the 'news' of Maharaji being in jail in
Nigeria I wrote him an email about it.
People should be
able to express any of their opinions.
False information posted for mischievious reasons by anybody of any viewpoint will most likely reap a due reward. As long as people of various viewpoints are allowed to contribute, sufficient evidence will be presented to allow a glimmer of truth to shine through the chaos. Chris
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Date: Sun, Jun 29, 1997 at 19:42:05 (EDT)
Poster: Anon Email: To: Chris Subject: Re: SCOTT'S SECRET PLANS Message: I agree I don't consider you to be the 'enemy'at all and I personally would not have mentioned your name at all. I actually felt a bit offended at that myself, however scott is quite justified in my opinion in undertaking a clandestine approach to precipitate the launch of this Newsgroup thing. If that's whAat it takes. I personally applaud your presence on this forum and don't put you in the category of totally brainwashed 'Fatwa'raging person. Back To Index -:- Top of Index |
Date: Sun, Jun 29, 1997 at 19:46:10 (EDT)
Poster: Anon(yes it's a longee) Email: To: Everyone Subject: Re: SCOTT'S SECRET PLANS Message: Er..excuse me but I am sick of people carping on about the mythical vacuousness of the Internet.
According to a contributor to Harlan s page:
- Maharaji has mentioned the nothingness he finds on the web.... All this cybernothingness would be of incredible value if you (Maharaji) used it to communicate with us.
I also recall OP s recounting that Maharaji said:
- The internet: as the source of yet another of humankind's great hopes for salvation. If you can't get the answers in other aspects of your life, maybe the internet will bring about world peace. But basically, the info superhighway is just another traffic jam.
and my response was (expletives now deleted) -
Who says the Internet is one of humankind's great hopes for
salvation?? Who says 'If you can't get the answers in other
aspects of your life, maybe the internet will bring about world
peace.
So what exactly is MJ s
gripe with the Information Highway ?
How petty all this is in the
grand scheme of things!
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Date: Sun, Jun 29, 1997 at 19:48:11 (EDT)
Poster: Jim Email: To: Chris Subject: Re: SCOTT'S SECRET PLANS Message: Chris, you've got a point -- I think -- when you say you've never fought the process. Perhaps, if you had a moment to look at yourself a little clearer, you'd see that you've undermined it quite a bit, much a s a cow that sits in traffic disrupts it. Sorry, I don't mean to be rude. I'm just talking about your tendency to ignore or avoid the pith of questions. But, that's another complaint. You're familiar with it by now and seem to be happy with your behaviour. So be it. The only people here who have expressed any satisfaction in your comments are Maharaji apologists. We know their dilemna -- your dilemna: Maharaji's made a fool of himself. Beyond that, I wonder how you can say this: 'And why should
Maharaji want to sabotage it?
with a straight face. I had an argument
about you on the chat board the other day. Someone said you were
stupid. I said no, just 'premiestupid.' Know what I mean?
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Date: Sun, Jun 29, 1997 at 19:58:25 (EDT)
Poster: Jim Email: To: URGENT:TO ALL PREMIES Subject: Re: SCOTT'S SECRET PLANS Message: Assuming you're not George Washington, you're a liar, but then that's obvious. So forget it. Call yourself what you wish. But tell me, dear friend, why, if our 'pathetic, bongo' labor is 'in vain', there's any URGENCY in stopping it? Let me put it this way. I doremember
the occasional 'bongo' as we called them. Crazy premies, prone
to disrupt satsang or stink up the satsang hall or something.
What I remember is the smug bemusement we enjoyed at their
expense. They certainly triggered no sense of alarm such as
yours. What gives? Is it possible that you're a little afraid
that people might actually enjoy the twenty-five year shaggy dog
story called Maharaji? Is that it? Chill out, friend, meditate
a bit. After all, Maharaji can look after himself. He can lift
up the whole world and turn us blue. Right? Relax, George.
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Date: Sun, Jun 29, 1997 at 20:00:18 (EDT)
Poster: Jim Email: To: URGENT:TO ALL PREMIES Subject: Re: SCOTT'S SECRET PLANS Message: Assuming you're not George Washington, you're a liar, but then that's obvious. So forget it. Call yourself what you wish. But tell me, dear friend, why, if our 'pathetic, bongo' labor is 'in vain', there's any URGENCY in stopping it? Let me put it this way. I doremember
the occasional 'bongo' as we called them. Crazy premies, prone
to disrupt satsang or stink up the satsang hall or something.
What I remember is the smug bemusement we enjoyed at their
expense. They certainly triggered no sense of alarm such as
yours. What gives? Is it possible that you're a little afraid
that people might actually enjoy the twenty-five year shaggy dog
story called Maharaji? Is that it? Chill out, friend, meditate
a bit. After all, Maharaji can look after himself. He can lift
up the whole world and turn us blue. Right? Relax, George.
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Date: Sun, Jun 29, 1997 at 20:14:30 (EDT)
Poster: Jim (short as usual) Email: To: Anon (yes it's a longee) Subject: Re: SCOTT'S SECRET PLANS Message: Anon, Thanks so much for your typically well-said view with which, by the way, I totally concur. One bad side-effect of avoiding critical thinking and/or criticism and/or honesty is side-splitting hypocrisy. Maharaji, premies, take note! As for the Internet's benefits, I agree
with all you've cited. Certainly there are so many more. For
example, Persian Kitty's Adult Lynx, to name but one.
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Date: Sun, Jun 29, 1997 at 22:33:11 (EDT)
Poster: Chris Email: To: Anon(yes it's a longee) Subject: Re: SCOTT'S SECRET PLANS Message: Anon, I do use the Internet as you well know but if you want to see some varied viewpoints on its value and issues take a look at the following: 'Silicon Snake Oil' by Clifford Stoll 'Data Smog' by David Shenk
You may be jumping to conclusions too quickly on Ms perspective on the Net. CD - Microsoft Certified
Systems Engineer
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Date: Sun, Jun 29, 1997 at 23:04:33 (EDT)
Poster: Chris Email: To: Jim Subject: Re: SCOTT'S SECRET PLANS Message: Jim, I am not sure
if you could recognize a Disruptive Cow
Sorry for what When I find a talking ass I will set
him up as your mascot. CD
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Date: Thurs, Jul 3, 1997 at 03:04:03 (EDT)
Poster: Mili Email: To: Scott Subject: Re: SCOTT'S SECRET PLANS Message: Some friends told me that you were mentioning me as a potential threat to the ever-mutating degeneration of your travesty of a site. Let me tell you that I've lost interest in your trip long ago. That's what it is - it is just your trip, and it's really true that you only reap what you sow. Or, in Croatia we say, 'You are going to eat your own crap eventually.' Man, you are so off the wall that it's hard to believe it. You are so dry and lifeless you reek of death. Your site brings images of necktie people in drab suits - lawyers? No, an undertakers' convention. If anhedonia is a symptom of mental disease, your site exemplifies it. It's such a drag, man. Instead of speaking of the vast positive potential of enjoying life and the real facts about Maharaji, you cling to lies and misinterpretations, a smear campaign if there ever was one - if this site is a reflection of you, you belong in a graveyard, man. Jim's putrid daily ejaculations of pus embelish the most absurd Internet pages that I've ever seen. At best it is just proof that there is absolutely no obligation for anyone to follow Maharaji. You can get back to the rut of your life anytime. You know - all you ex's are really caught in a retarded group think. It all comes down to passing comments like the two grumpy old spectators in the balcony in the Muppet show. But, eventually, you will have to face your life (and death) alone. Since there is talk of books here, try re-reading Hesse's Siddartha and Steppenwolf. Jonathan Livingston Seagull by Richard Bach is a classic, no? Back To Index -:- Top of Index |
Date: Thurs, Jul 3, 1997 at 23:52:54 (EDT)
Poster: Jim Email: To: Mili Subject: Re: SCOTT'S SECRET PLANS Message: Mili, PLEASE DON'T STOP POSTING HERE! When I read your citation of Jonathan Livingston Seagull I almost fell over laughing. This is richer than anything. Yes, you're right, life without following a fat little fraud artist who once claimed to be Lord of the Universe and the Saviour of Mankind, come with more power than ever before, blah, blah, blah, is drab indeed. How dull the work-a-day world must have seemed to the Heaven's Gaters too, huh? Jonothan
Livingston Seagull? How about Big Bird on Main Street?
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Date: Fri, Jun 27, 1997 at 11:33:58 (EDT)
Poster: jim Email: To: Everyone Subject: morning smile: maharaji goes amish Message: from harlan's page: '6-26-97 E-mail: handwerk@barepower.net Location: San Pedro, CA Comments: Maharaji has mentioned the nothingness he finds
on the web.
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Date: Fri, Jun 27, 1997 at 23:51:05 (EDT)
Poster: Chris Email: To: jim Subject: Re: morning smile: maharaji goes amish Message: M has admitted that he always has the latest computer brochures on his desk. Jim,
CD
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Date: Fri, Jun 27, 1997 at 00:46:10 (EDT)
Poster: Son Of Deena Email: To: Everyone Subject: If Maharaji.... Message: If Maharaji were any real Perfect Master, he would be perfect. To prove to the world that he really has the message of peace and love and knowledge, he shouldn't make people pay money for flying and driving to his programs. He should have his own plane company, maybe call it 'Maharaji Airlines' and he should FOR FREE fly anybody who wants to listen to his message, out to Austrailia or wherever the programs are going to be. He should have Hotels where people can stay for free, just an added bonus for listening to the message of the 'Heart'. My mom hasn't been here lately. She's been too busy driving her new car. A 96' Subaru Legacy. And after years of following a cult leader, she has a Legacy going on right now. Today something reminded us of Maharaji and my mom called him a 'Pudgy Little Fuck-Face'. So everybody, she's doing okay. In fact, since she left MJ and started driving a fancy car like Fuck Face does, she has never felt better. She has never felt more free! She just read this and says 'My my my, what a lot of anger my son has after being brought up in a cult family.' Regards to all the ex-Fuck-face-followers, Son of Deena (lol)
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Date: Fri, Jun 27, 1997 at 06:38:56 (EDT)
Poster: Brian Email: To: Son Of Deena Subject: Re: If Maharaji.... Message: Tell your mom 'Hi' for me. And tell her that she has a potty mouth too :) Back To Index -:- Top of Index |
Date: Fri, Jun 27, 1997 at 18:17:23 (EDT)
Poster: Michael Email: To: Son of Deena Subject: Re: If Maharaji.... Message: I'm glad that your mom is enjoying her car and life in general, but I think that a fine Christian boy should expand his vocabulary a bit. :-) Back To Index -:- Top of Index |
Date: Sun, Jun 29, 1997 at 20:49:22 (EDT)
Poster: Jesus Email: To: Michael Subject: Re: If Maharaji.... Message: Don't be so fockin' condescending to ma boeeeeii...you sanctimoious fock yoo Back To Index -:- Top of Index |
Date: Thurs, Jun 26, 1997 at 21:20:09 (EDT)
Poster: Brian Email: To: Scott Subject: IT'S BROKE, SCOTT!! Message: What's happening with this page, Scott? The index of posts takes for-freaking-ever to load. It's been dragging through the net at less than 100 bytes per second on an average. Are you being SYN flooded, or what?
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Date: Thurs, Jun 26, 1997 at 21:55:02 (EDT)
Poster: Bobby Email: To: Brian Subject: Re: IT'S BROKE, SCOTT!! Message: Twas after them "brother russell" links and "jesus smokes chesterfields." Fun stuff.
What does "SYN flooded" mean?
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Date: Tues, Jun 24, 1997 at 16:43:40 (EDT)
Poster: JW Email: To: Everyone Subject: Profound Words of the Guru Message: I've been out of town for awhile, but my travels enabled me to ask a friend who has access to these things to look up some of the more simplistic, inane platitudes that Guru Maharaj Ji lets fly from the depth of his divine wisdom from time to time, and which the premies slurp up as fast as he slings them.
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Date: Tues, Jun 24, 1997 at 17:00:54 (EDT)
Poster: grasping minds wanna know Email: To: JW Subject: Re: Profound Words of the Guru Message: Form is no other than emptiness, emptiness no other than form. Form is exactly emptiness, emptiness exactly form. Sensation, conception, discrimination, awareness are likewise like this. Back To Index -:- Top of Index |
Date: Tues, Jun 24, 1997 at 19:49:12 (EDT)
Poster: Jim Email: To: grasping minds wanna know Subject: Re: Profound Words of the Guru Message: Water is like a liquid which flows to the river of love within inside and without love is like a dream which awakens the soul in the night of light and darkness. I
wrote this but it's inspired by my former guru.
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Date: Tues, Jun 24, 1997 at 20:44:08 (EDT)
Poster: Brian Email: To: Jim Subject: Re: Profound Words of the Guru Message: Water is like a liquid which flows to the river of love within inside and without love is like a dream which awakens the soul in the night of light and darkness. I wrote this but it's inspired by my former guru.
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Date: Tues, Jun 24, 1997 at 20:51:07 (EDT)
Poster: Brian Email: To: JW Subject: Re: Profound Words of the Guru Message: JW! Welcome back, you voice of sanity you! Where'd ya get the comic book anyway? Lots of Divine Cloudiness, huh? And pictures of it too! Back To Index -:- Top of Index |
Date: Tues, Jun 24, 1997 at 21:09:02 (EDT)
Poster: words of wisdom Email: To: JW Subject: Re: Profound Words of the Guru Message: BEAVER: Gee, there's something wrong with just about everything, isn't there Dad? WARD: Just about, Beav. LEAVE IT TO BEAVER
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Date: Tues, Jun 24, 1997 at 21:17:54 (EDT)
Poster: Richard M. Nixon Email: To: JW Subject: Re: Profound Words of the Guru Message: Your mind must always go, even while you're shaking hands and going through all the maneuvers. I developed the ability long ago to do one thing while thinking another. RICHARD M. NIXON
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Date: Tues, Jun 24, 1997 at 21:53:12 (EDT)
Poster: dead poet society Email: To: JW Subject: Re: Profound Words of the Guru Message: Your favorite line starts a section that contains the best lines in the book. If you could
see your own movie, you would learn so much.
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Date: Tues, Jun 24, 1997 at 23:18:58 (EDT)
Poster: Chris Email: To: Jim Subject: Re: Profound Words of the Guru Message: Jim says: I wrote this but it's inspired by my former guru. Sounds more like the result of Canadian whiskey to me. CD
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Date: Wed, Jun 25, 1997 at 00:26:29 (EDT)
Poster: Michael Email: To: JW Subject: Re: Profound Words of the Guru Message: I'm still reflecting on that thing about "a child's face can say so much, especially the mouth part of the face." Back To Index -:- Top of Index |
Date: Wed, Jun 25, 1997 at 03:40:21 (EDT)
Poster: JW Email: To: Brian Subject: Re: Profound Words of the Guru Message: JW! Welcome back, you voice of sanity you! Where'd ya get the comic book anyway? Lots of Divine Cloudiness, huh? And pictures of it too! It is a very amusing book, one that every ex-premie should look at if he or she EVER has even the slightest question as to whether Maharaj Ji is anything more than a fraud who is in the slow reading group. A friend let me look at a copy of it, but I couldn't get her to let me have it, even for awhile, because it doesn't actually belong to her and if the owners knew the purposes for which I would use it, and who gave it to me ... well, she would get in trouble with them.
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Date: Wed, Jun 25, 1997 at 20:08:00 (EDT)
Poster: Jim Email: To: JW Subject: Re: Profound Words of the Guru Message: Anyone familiar with Joe Frank? He's an often brilliant radio playwright who's surreal monologues, plays and stories were one of the dearest things I left behind in Santa Monica. In fact I think he's still on KCRW. Joe once did this
long play called 'tales of the city' or something like that. It
was about this guy who falls into this cult that worships
electricity. The cult leader gives occasional soothing talks
from his chair on top of some cliff. He says nothing but he says
it so mellifluously, well that's the joke. All nostalgia,
maudlin bathos, false dignity, mock profundity. Maharaji-like.
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Date: Mon, Jun 23, 1997 at 16:34:28 (EDT)
Poster: Bobby Email: bobby@ptd.net To: Everyone Subject: MJ in NYC June 30 Message: Anybody going to the New York program June 30th. I think I'll be there with Heather and my bud Raymondo. Ain't seen ol' MJ in at least 10-12 years. Looking forward to
meeting old friends.
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Date: Mon, Jun 23, 1997 at 19:27:50 (EDT)
Poster: tom Email: To: Bobby Subject: Re: MJ in NYC June 30 Message: I'll be the one with the sunglasses cause security will be on the lookout for me. dont think that this site isnt watched. and Im somewhat famous even to maharaji and I have been putting my name in full here Tom and address. I will give a report. wear a budda shirt and I'll know it's you. Back To Index -:- Top of Index |
Date: Mon, Jun 23, 1997 at 20:56:21 (EDT)
Poster: op Email: To: Bobby Subject: Re: MJ in NYC June 30 Message: Anybody going to the New York program June 30th. I think I'll be there with Heather and my bud Raymondo. Ain't seen ol' MJ in at least 10-12 years. Looking
forward to meeting old friends.
I'll be there
too. We can finally see each other - I'll try to bring that
picture I told you about - I think you'd like it, even if you
aren't into M any more.
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Date: Mon, Jun 23, 1997 at 21:03:43 (EDT)
Poster: bobby Email: To: op Subject: Re: MJ in NYC June 30 Message: Yes, I'll be on the lookout for you. You can recognize me thusly: I'll have a shirt on though.
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Date: Mon, Jun 23, 1997 at 21:06:26 (EDT)
Poster: bobby Email: To: bobby Subject: Re: MJ in NYC June 30 Message: Hmmmm...... didn't quite morph into this plane of existence. I'll try again....
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Date: Mon, Jun 23, 1997 at 21:17:28 (EDT)
Poster: op Email: To: bobby Subject: Re: MJ in NYC June 30 Message: Thanks. I thought it was my lousy version of netscape and my out-of-memory computer that wouldn't reveal the image. I'll e-mail you to let you know where I'll be. Nice to see there's been some brain-and-beyond
activity on this forum - today's the first day I've peeked in in
more than a week. But I can't load the archives, because of my
lousy version of netscape and my low-memory computer (provided by
the grace of the company I'm working for). So I have no idea of
the previous battles that have been fought while I was away.
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Date: Mon, Jun 23, 1997 at 21:22:14 (EDT)
Poster: bobby Email: To: op Subject: Re: MJ in NYC June 30 Message: Seems as if it was relatively quiet for awhile, aside from some relatively small flare-ups. I've only
checked in occasionally. Doesn't take too long around here for
the shit to hit the fan.
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Date: Mon, Jun 23, 1997 at 21:26:15 (EDT)
Poster: op Email: To: tom Subject: Re: MJ in NYC June 30 Message: I'll be the one with the sunglasses cause security will be on the lookout for me. dont think that this site isnt watched. and Im somewhat famous even to maharaji and I have been putting my name in full here Tom and address. I will give a report. wear a budda shirt and I'll know it's you. Don't pride yourself too highly. Jim's much more (in)famous. Now HE'D really have to wear dark glasses. But if he didn't, maybe M would finally answer his questions... Didn't you say - a while ago - you had something to tell me? I didn't get anything. Or maybe that's what you had to tell me? Take care... (don't
misinterpret that last line, Jim - it's not a threat, rather a
gentle and friendly way of farewell)
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Date: Mon, Jun 23, 1997 at 21:28:29 (EDT)
Poster: Anon Email: To: bobby Subject: Re: MJ in NYC June 30 Message: You can recognize me thusly: Hey Bobby, I'll recognize you easily without your shirt on! - Anon Hi OP! Back To Index -:- Top of Index |
Date: Mon, Jun 23, 1997 at 21:32:39 (EDT)
Poster: Anon Email: To: anyone Subject: Re: MJ in NYC June 30 Message: I'm in the conference room! Join me anyone? Back To Index -:- Top of Index |
Date: Mon, Jun 23, 1997 at 21:49:17 (EDT)
Poster: op Email: To: Anon Subject: Re: MJ in NYC June 30 Message: I'm in the conference room! Join me anyone?
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Date: Mon, Jun 23, 1997 at 22:40:28 (EDT)
Poster: Anon Email: To: op Subject: Re: MJ in NYC June 30 Message: I'm in the conference room! Join me anyone? I can't get in because I don't have a Java enabled browser. And I'm too tired
to go look for one and download it. Mebbe some other time.
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Date: Sun, Jun 22, 1997 at 08:35:56 (EDT)
Poster: C'mon Dad, Email: what a pal To: child abuse hotline Subject: Give me a break Message: Anon was discussing his father and I thought he was lucky. His father talked to him and probably had lots of experiences together. I felt a little bit lost looking back on what I had. But then I realized that of course there is always someone that has is worse and even the son of god had it rough if I am to believe everyones view of what happened to him. Here he is the son of god for crying out loud
and he had to come and die for our sins. He had to die so his
father would forgive us. Before I will forgive my confused
creatures I will kill my own son.
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